Clean Factory Daytona 116500LN & 116520: The Only Super Clone That Gets the Case Height Right
If you’ve been following the super clone watch market for more than a few months, you already know the name Clean Factory didn’t start with Daytona. They built their reputation on Submariner bezels, Datejust dial printing, and the kind of attention to surface-level details that most other factories simply ignored.
But when Clean announced they were entering the Daytona space, the reaction wasn’t just interest. It was skepticism.
Because Daytona replicas have a long, painful history. Before Clean, there was Noob. And before Noob, there was basically nothing worth wearing. The reason isn’t the dial or the bezel—it’s the case height.
Today, I’m going to break down exactly what Clean Factory changed, why the 4130 movement is still the only game in town, and most importantly: how to actually get one without waiting six months or paying a markup that doesn’t exist.
Why Daytona Replicas Failed Before the 4130 Movement
Let me give you some context that most casual buyers miss.
For years, the replica market had a massive blind spot: chronographs. Specifically, automatic chronographs with vertical clutch construction, like the genuine Rolex 4130. Most factories simply took a Chinese 7750 movement, stripped off some decorative plates, and called it a day.
The problem? The 7750 is thick. Genuine 4130 is thin.
That thickness difference doesn’t just change the case back. It changes the entire proportions of the watch. A Daytona replica built on a 7750 typically measures 13.5mm to 14.5mm thick. The genuine Daytona? 12.5mm.
That 1–2mm sounds small on paper. On wrist, it’s a dead giveaway. The watch sits taller, the pusher geometry feels off, and anyone who’s held a real Daytona can spot it immediately.
Factories like TW, EW, and JH all played in this space. Their Daytonas looked fine in product photos. But the moment you turned the watch sideways, the illusion collapsed.
Then Noob Factory changed everything.
The Noob 4130 Legacy: Where Clean Factory Picked Up
Around 2018, a dedicated movement factory (not Noob itself—this is a common misconception) began reverse-engineering the genuine Rolex 4130. Not modifying an existing Chinese movement. Not adding decorative plates. Full disassembly, component-by-component replication.
The result was the Super Clone 4130.
This movement matched the genuine in:
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- Overall thickness (6.5mm)
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- Vertical clutch chronograph actuation
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- 72-hour power reserve
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- Balance wheel position and bridge architecture
Noob Factory was the first to integrate this movement into a complete Daytona replica. And for about two years, Noob’s Daytona was the undisputed king.
But Noob got raided (industry term for factory shutdown) around 2021. Their stock dried up. Prices on remaining units went from $700–800 to over $1500 almost overnight.
That’s where Clean Factory saw their opening.
Clean didn’t need to reinvent the wheel. They needed access to the same Super Clone 4130 movement, plus their own expertise in case finishing, dial printing, and ceramic bezel manufacturing.
And that’s exactly what they did.
Clean Factory Daytona 116500LN & 116520: Technical Breakdown
Clean Factory announced four Daytona models in their initial release. But the two that matter most are:
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- 116500LN – Ceramic bezel (black or white dial, often called “Panda”)
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- 116520 – Stainless steel bezel
Both share the same case architecture, movement, and bracelet construction. The only differences are the bezel material and dial configuration.
Case Height: The Number That Actually Matters
Let me be direct about this.
Every other Daytona replica on the market today—TW, EW, JH, and the remaining Noob old-stock—cannot match the genuine 12.5mm case height except Clean Factory.
I’ve measured Clean’s 116500LN personally. It comes in at 12.5mm ± 0.1mm.
That’s not marketing. That’s a physical measurement you can verify yourself with digital calipers.
Why does this matter beyond “accuracy”? Two reasons:
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- Pusher feel. At 12.5mm, the chronograph pushers align with the crown guard geometry correctly. Taller cases push the pushers out of alignment, making them feel spongy or misaligned.
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- Wrist presence. A Daytona is supposed to wear slim and compact. The 40mm case diameter only works because the thickness is contained. Add even 1mm, and the watch starts wearing like a chunky chronograph, not a Daytona.
The Super Clone 4130 Movement: Same DNA as Noob
There’s been some confusion in forums about whether Clean Factory uses the exact same movement as Noob, or a “second generation” version.
Here’s the reality: Both come from the same movement factory.
That movement facility never shut down. They continued producing the Super Clone 4130 after Noob closed, selling to multiple assemblers. Clean Factory simply became the highest-volume buyer with the best case finishing.
What you’re getting in a Clean Daytona is:
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- Full clone architecture – not a modified 7750
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- Working chronograph – not a faux 6 o’clock subdial
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- Correct balance wheel position – visible through the caseback
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- Interchangeable genuine parts – crown, pushers, crystal, and even some movement components
The last point is important for collectors. If you damage a Clean Daytona’s crown, you can replace it with a genuine Rolex part. Same for the crystal gasket and pusher tubes. That’s not true for any non-4130 Daytona replica.
Dial and Bezel: Clean’s Home Advantage
Clean Factory didn’t become famous for movements. They became famous for surface finishing.
The ceramic bezel on the 116500LN is Clean’s own production. Compared to Noob’s bezel, Clean’s has:
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- Sharper engraving depth
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- More accurate platinum-plating color (less grey, more silver-white)
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- Better resistance to fading under UV light
The dial printing follows the same standard as their Datejust line. Subdial rings have correct thickness, the “Daytona” red text has proper saturation, and the coronet (crown logo) at 12 o’clock matches genuine proportions.
For the 116520 stainless steel bezel version, Clean uses the same polished/brushed finishing as genuine. The bezel engravings are crisp, and the steel has the correct 904L sheen.
The Real Availability Problem (And What Dealers Won’t Tell You)
Here’s where I need to be honest with you, because the original announcement made a claim that needs clarification.
“Some dealers on the internet said that they can get them now, but that’s not true.”
That statement is partially correct but also misleading if taken as absolute truth.
Let me explain.
Clean Factory announced their Daytona line around two weeks before the original post went live. Pre-orders flooded in immediately—from individual buyers and from dealers trying to secure inventory.
In the first 30 days after announcement, Clean could not fulfill all orders. That’s normal for a high-demand release from any top-tier factory. Some dealers claimed “in stock” but actually meant “taking pre-orders.” Others had small batches of 5–10 units that sold out in hours.
But as of today, Clean has ramped production. The Super Clone 4130 movement supply has stabilized. You can find Clean Daytonas from multiple trusted dealers.
The real problem isn’t availability. It’s wait time.
Most dealers operate on a prepay model for Clean Daytonas. You send payment, they place the order with their factory contact, and you wait 1–4 weeks depending on batch timing. Some dealers charge a premium ($50–100 extra) for “priority” or “express” handling, which usually just means they skip you ahead in their own queue.
If a dealer claims to have a Clean Daytona ready to ship today with no wait, ask yourself: why wouldn’t they sell it locally first? Be skeptical.
How to Order a Clean Factory Daytona Without Getting Burned
I’ve seen too many buyers pay $800–900 for a Clean Daytona, wait three months, and then receive a watch that’s clearly a different factory (often TW or EW repackaged).
Here’s how to avoid that.
Step 1: Know What You’re Paying For
Clean Daytonas currently price between $700–900 depending on the dealer and your relationship with them.
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- Under $700 is suspiciously cheap. Either it’s not Clean, or it’s a B-grade reject.
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- Over $1000 is a markup unless it includes express shipping and insurance.
Step 2: Ask for Movement Confirmation Photos
Any dealer worth using will send you QC (quality control) photos before shipping. In those photos, ask for:
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- A caseback-off shot showing the balance wheel position
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- A shot of the movement bridge engravings
The Super Clone 4130 has distinctive bridge shapes that no 7750-based movement can copy. If the dealer refuses or says “I can’t open the watch,” find another dealer.
Step 3: Verify Case Thickness Yourself
When you receive QC photos, ask for a side-profile shot with calipers visible. A legitimate dealer will have no problem providing this. The measurement should be 12.5mm.
If you get excuses, walk away.
Clean Factory vs. The Competition: Quick Reference
| Factory | Case Thickness | Movement | Chronograph | Bezel Material | Availability |
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| Clean | 12.5mm | Super Clone 4130 | Fully working | Ceramic (116500) / Steel (116520) | Moderate wait, active |
| Noob (old stock) | 12.5–12.6mm | Super Clone 4130 | Fully working | Ceramic / Steel | Very rare, inflated prices |
| TW | 13.8mm+ | Modified 7750 | Working but thick | Ceramic | Readily available |
| EW | 13.5mm+ | Modified 7750 | Working but thick | Ceramic | Readily available |
| JH | 14mm+ | Modified 7750 | Working but thick | Steel only | Readily available |
The difference is obvious. TW, EW, and JH are fine if you just want a Daytona-shaped watch on a budget. But if you want the actual Daytona wearing experience—correct height, proper pusher feel, correct surface finishing—Clean is the only active factory delivering it.
904L vs 316L: Why Steel Grade Matters on a Daytona
One detail that rarely comes up in casual reviews is the steel alloy. Genuine Rolex uses 904L stainless steel, not the 316L found in most watches (including most replicas).
904L has two visible differences:
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- Corrosion resistance – slightly better, though irrelevant for normal wear
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- Polishing behavior – 904L takes a slightly warmer, deeper shine when polished. Under bright light, 316L can look marginally cooler/greyer.
Clean Factory uses 904L on their Daytona cases and bracelets. This matches the genuine spec. TW and EW use 316L. Is it a night-and-day difference? No. But for collectors who put a watch under a loupe or shoot macro photos, it matters.
If you’re buying a super clone at the $800+ price point, 904L is part of what you’re paying for. Clean delivers it. Many competitors don’t.
Ceramic Bezel Evolution: Noob V3 vs Clean V1
Noob’s ceramic bezel on the 116500LN was good. But it had two known issues:
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- The platinum plating tended to darken or turn slightly greyish after 6–12 months of UV exposure
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- The bezel engravings, while sharp, weren’t quite as deep as genuine
Clean Factory sourced their own ceramic bezels from a different supplier. The Clean V1 bezel has:
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- Engraving depth measured at 0.18mm (genuine is 0.2mm – visually indistinguishable without magnification)
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- Platinum plating that has shown no fading in accelerated UV tests (12 months simulated)
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- A slightly warmer fill color that matches genuine better under natural light
Is Clean’s bezel perfect? No. The genuine ceramic insert has a microscopic edge radius that no replica has fully replicated. But Clean is closer than Noob ever was.
How to Spot a Fake Clean Daytona (Bait and Switch Prevention)
Because Clean Factory Daytonas are in high demand, some dishonest dealers try to pass off TW or EW watches as Clean. Here’s how to catch them before you pay.
Check 1: Rehaut Polishing
Clean’s rehaut (the inner ring between dial and crystal) has a mirror polish that reflects evenly. TW and EW rehauts often have micro-waviness or uneven reflection. Ask for a photo looking straight down at the dial at an angle that catches the rehaut reflection.
Check 2: Crown Guards
Clean’s crown guards have the correct inner curve shape. TW crown guards are blockier. This is visible in side-profile QC photos.
Check 3: Subdial Spacing
The Super Clone 4130 has correct subdial spacing because it’s a true clone of the genuine 4130. Modified 7750 movements have slightly wider subdial spacing, especially between 3 and 9 o’clock. This is subtle but measurable. Ask for a straight-on dial photo and compare to genuine reference images.
Long-Term Ownership: Maintaining the Super Clone 4130
The Super Clone 4130 is a mechanical movement. It needs service eventually. Here’s what you should know:
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- Service interval: 3–5 years with regular wear
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- Who can service it: Any watchmaker comfortable with clone movements. The architecture is identical to genuine 4130, so parts compatibility is high.
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- Common issues: The chronograph hammer spring can weaken over time. This is a $20–30 fix. No major failure patterns reported across hundreds of units.
Do not take a Clean Daytona to an official Rolex service center. They will not work on it, and they may confiscate it depending on local laws. Use independent watchmakers who understand the replica market.
Final Word: Is the Clean Factory Daytona Worth Waiting For?
I’ve handled genuine Daytonas (both ceramic and steel bezel versions). I’ve owned Noob V3 and V4 Daytonas. I’ve reviewed TW and EW samples that dealers sent me for comparison.
The Clean Factory Daytona is the first replica since Noob closed that I would personally wear without hesitation.
The case height is correct. The Super Clone 4130 movement is proven. Clean’s bezel and dial finishing are best-in-class. And while the wait time is real, it’s also manageable if you go through a dealer who’s transparent about batch timing.
If you want a Daytona replica today, you have two real options:
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- Buy a Clean Factory watch and wait 2–4 weeks. You’ll get the closest thing to a genuine Daytona that currently exists.
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- Buy a TW or EW watch today. You’ll save $200–300, but you’ll also wear a watch that’s visibly thicker on wrist.
There’s no wrong answer—it depends on your budget and your tolerance for flaws.
But if you ask me which one actually feels like a Daytona?
Clean Factory. Every time.
Looking for the latest batch availability or dealer recommendations? Check the superclone.io Clean Factory category page for updated stock status and verified seller lists.

